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Eminem Blasts Bush in Mosh (new music video)
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know buddee
2004-10-30 03:25:04 UTC
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http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html

http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2654122

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From the song:

Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight

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an article and ALL the lyrics to this song are here:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1027-04.htm
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If Bush stays in power - things will get much darker and uglier than
ever before. Many more US soldiers will be killed or crippled for
life. Lots of women and children will be left laying in ditches with
their guts hanging out - all over the world - unless we kick Bush's
dumb ass out of the white house. That is
very important. Please vote for Kerry and encourage your friends to do
the same! It's well worth the trouble! The people have the power,
but we have to get out and vote! Otherwise we might as well be a
bunch of mindless jellyfish, who do nothing while a bunch of idiots
wreck our nation!

-------------------------------

3 good sources for news:

http://www.alternet.org
http://drudgereport.com
http://www.commondreams.org
RichA
2004-10-30 03:59:41 UTC
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Emimen is uneducated white trash.
-Rich
know buddee
2004-10-30 12:39:00 UTC
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Post by RichA
Emimen is uneducated white trash.
-Rich
you are talking about yourself and the others who stupidly support the jerks
in the white house.
know buddee
2004-10-31 16:10:30 UTC
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An estimated 100,000 Iraqi civilians (who had nothing to do with 9-11
or any terrorism) have been killed by the US forces, and Bush won't
apologize or admit that he's made any mistakes.

The US news media (megaphone for the billionaires) are making many
more billions under bush, so they're not making much noise about that
- it wouldn't help them achieve their top goal (more billions).

Bush took his eyes off of Osama while grabbing oil/power in Iraq.
Meanwhile Osama's running around free - appearing on TV and millions
of new potential terrorists have been given about 100,000 new reasons
to hate the US.

If we continue to act like a psycho bully on steroids and
self-appointed world policeman, we are begging for trouble. We MUST
try something different. Bush is a disaster and HAS TO GO!

GO KERRY GO!

-------------------

"... one thing that [has] remained constant is the self-righteousness
of the American public discourse. We're back to faulting the natives
for their stubborn refusal to understand the purity of our hearts. And
hell hasn't seen the wrath of a heart-broken colonialist. Iraqis must
learn now, as did Native Americans, African slaves, Vietnamese and
Palestinian peasants, and many others, that ingratitude is a capital
offense." http://thirdcoastactivist.org/

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American corporate news spreads White house and pentagon spin
- they can't be trusted. Their mission is to make lots of money and
maintain our corrupt economic and political systems, NOT to tell the
people the truth about what's going on. Only the truth will set us
free from tyrants, fear, and needless bloodshed.
Post by know buddee
http://drudgereport.com
http://www.alternet.org/
http://www.commondreams.org/
If we plan to return Iraq to the Iraqis, why is the pentagon building
fourteen PERMANENT military bases there? Those who have been paying
attention know that the US appointed Iraqi Prime Minster Allawi is a
US puppet - and is not respected by the Iraqi people. Bush doesn't
belong in the white house, he belongs in prison
along with his bosses: Cheney & Rumsfeld.




.
RichA
2004-10-31 18:28:58 UTC
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Post by know buddee
An estimated 100,000 Iraqi civilians (who had nothing to do with 9-11
or any terrorism) have been killed by the US forces, and Bush won't
apologize or admit that he's made any mistakes.
Apologize for what?
Post by know buddee
The US news media (megaphone for the billionaires) are making many
more billions under bush, so they're not making much noise about that
- it wouldn't help them achieve their top goal (more billions).
There is always news, dimwit.
Post by know buddee
Bush took his eyes off of Osama while grabbing oil/power in Iraq.
Meanwhile Osama's running around free - appearing on TV and millions
of new potential terrorists have been given about 100,000 new reasons
to hate the US.
Yes, instead the U.S. should just avoid everything to do with the
World. Shut it's doors, let the planet handle itself.
Hey! That sounds alot like isolationist Republicanism!
Post by know buddee
If we continue to act like a psycho bully on steroids and
self-appointed world policeman, we are begging for trouble. We MUST
try something different. Bush is a disaster and HAS TO GO!
They aren't self-appointed they are what they are by devine right.
Post by know buddee
GO KERRY GO!
-------------------
"... one thing that [has] remained constant is the self-righteousness
of the American public discourse. We're back to faulting the natives
for their stubborn refusal to understand the purity of our hearts. And
hell hasn't seen the wrath of a heart-broken colonialist. Iraqis must
learn now, as did Native Americans, African slaves, Vietnamese and
Palestinian peasants, and many others, that ingratitude is a capital
offense." http://thirdcoastactivist.org/
-------------------
American corporate news spreads White house and pentagon spin
- they can't be trusted. Their mission is to make lots of money and
maintain our corrupt economic and political systems, NOT to tell the
people the truth about what's going on. Only the truth will set us
free from tyrants, fear, and needless bloodshed.
Post by know buddee
http://drudgereport.com
http://www.alternet.org/
http://www.commondreams.org/
If we plan to return Iraq to the Iraqis, why is the pentagon building
fourteen PERMANENT military bases there? Those who have been paying
attention know that the US appointed Iraqi Prime Minster Allawi is a
US puppet - and is not respected by the Iraqi people. Bush doesn't
belong in the white house, he belongs in prison
along with his bosses: Cheney & Rumsfeld.
.
jere7my tho?rpe
2004-10-31 19:08:56 UTC
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[snip]
Rich, stop changing your screen name all the time. I keep killfiling
you and killfiling you, and you keep coming back.

----j7y
--
jere7my tho?rpe "Clever stratagems are quite beyond my
440-775-1522 powers, but if it is rank foolishness
***@oberlin.net you require, I have no end of it."
http://www.livejournal.com/~jere7my Jack Shaftoe, _The Confusion_
maximus-4-the-people
2004-11-07 06:08:17 UTC
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Fallujah and the Reality of War
By Rahul Mahajan

The assault on Fallujah has started. It is being sold as liberation of
the people of Fallujah; it is being sold as a necessary step to
implementing "democracy" in Iraq. These are lies.

I was in Fallujah during the siege in April, and I want to paint for
you a word picture of what such an assault means.

Fallujah is dry and hot; like Southern California, it has been made an
agricultural area only by virtue of extensive irrigation. It has been
known for years as a particularly devout city; people call it the City
of a Thousand Mosques. In the mid-90's, when Saddam wanted his name to
be added to the call to prayer, the imams of Fallujah refused.

U.S. forces bombed the power plant at the beginning of the assault;
for the next several weeks, Fallujah was a blacked-out town, with
light provided by generators only in critical places like mosques and
clinics. The town was placed under siege; the ban on bringing in food,
medicine, and other basic items was broken only when Iraqis en masse
challenged the roadblocks. The atmosphere was one of pervasive fear,
from bombing and the threat of more bombing. Noncombatants and
families with sick people, the elderly, and children were leaving in
droves. After initial instances in which people were prevented from
leaving, U.S. forces began allowing everyone to leave - except for
what they called "military age males," men usually between 15 and 60.
Keeping noncombatants from leaving a place under bombardment is a
violation of the laws of war. Of course, if you assume that every
military age male is an enemy, there can be no better sign that you
are in the wrong country, and that, in fact, your war is on the
people, not on their oppressors, not a war of liberation.

The main hospital in Fallujah is across the Euphrates from the bulk of
the town. Right at the beginning, the Americans shut down the main
bridge, cutting off the hospital from the town. Doctors who wanted to
treat patients had to leave the hospital, with only the equipment they
could carry, and set up in makeshift clinics all over the city; the
one I stayed at had been a neighborhood clinic with one room that had
four beds, and no operating theater; doctors refrigerated blood in a
soft-drink vending machine. Another clinic, I'm told, had been an auto
repair shop. This hospital closing (not the only such that I
documented in Iraq) also violates the Geneva Convention.

In Fallujah, you were rarely free of the sound of artillery booming in
the background, punctuated by the smaller, higher-pitched note of the
mujaheddin's hand-held mortars. After even a few minutes of it, you
have to stop paying attention to it - and yet, of course, you never
quite stop. Even today, when I hear the roar of thunder, I'm often
transported instantly to April 10 and the dusty streets of Fallujah.

In addition to the artillery and the warplanes dropping 500, 1000, and
2000-pound bombs, and the murderous AC-130 Spectre gunships that can
demolish a whole city block in less than a minute, the Marines had
snipers criss-crossing the whole town. For weeks, Fallujah was a
series of sometimes mutually inaccessible pockets, divided by the
no-man's-lands of sniper fire paths. Snipers fired indiscriminately,
usually at whatever moved. Of 20 people I saw come into the clinic I
observed in a few hours, only five were "military-age males." I saw
old women, old men, a child of 10 shot through the head; terminal, the
doctors told me, although in Baghdad they might have been able to save
him.

One thing that snipers were very discriminating about - every single
ambulance I saw had bullet holes in it. Two that I inspected bore
clear evidence of specific, deliberate sniping. Friends of mine who
went out to gather in wounded people were shot at. When we first
reported this fact, we came in for near-universal execration. Many
just refused to believe it. Some asked me how I knew that it wasn't
the mujaheddin. Interesting question. Had, say, Brownsville, Texas,
been encircled by the Vietnamese and bombarded (which, of course, Mr.
Bush courageously protected us from during the Vietnam war era) and
Brownsville ambulances been shot up, the question of whether the
residents were shooting at
their own ambulances, I somehow guess, would not have come up. Later,
our reports were confirmed by the Iraqi Ministry of Health and even by
the U.S. military.

The best estimates are that roughly 900-1000 people were killed
directly, blown up, burnt, or shot. Of them, my guess, based on news
reports and personal observation, is that 2/3 to 3/4 were
noncombatants. But the damage goes far beyond that. You can read
whenever you like about the bombing of so-called Zarqawi safe houses
in residential areas in Fallujah, but the reports don't tell you what
that means. You read about precision strikes, and it's true that
America's GPS-guided bombs are very accurate - when they're not
malfunctioning, the 80 or 85% of the time that they work, their
targeting radius is 10 meters, i.e., they hit within 10 meters of the
target. Even the smallest of them, however, the 500-pound bomb, has a
blast radius of 400 meters; every single bomb
shakes the whole neighborhood, breaking windows and smashing crockery.
A town under bombardment is a town in constant fear.

You read the reports about X killed and Y wounded. And you should
remember those numbers; those numbers are important. But equally
important is to remember that those numbers lie - in a war zone,
everyone is wounded.

The first assault on Fallujah was a military failure. This time, the
resistance is stronger, better-armed, and better-organized; to "win,"
the U.S. military will have to pull out all the stops. Even within
horror and terror, there are degrees, and we - and the people of
Fallujah - ain't seen nothin' yet. George W. Bush has just claimed a
new mandate - the world has been delivered into his hands.

There will be international condemnation, as there was the first time;
but our government won't listen to it; aside from the resistance, all
the people of Fallujah will be able to depend on to try to mitigate
the horror will be us, the antiwar movement. We have a responsibility,
that we didn't meet in April and we didn't meet in August when Najaf
was similarly attacked; will we meet it this time?

###

Rahul Mahajan is publisher of the weblog Empire Notes
http://www.empirenotes.org with regularly updated commentary on U.S.
foreign policy, the occupation of Iraq, and the state of the American
Empire. He has been to occupied Iraq twice, and was in Fallujah during
the siege in April. His most recent book is Full Spectrum Dominance:
U.S. Power in Iraq and Beyond
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1583225781/empirenotes-20

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Too bad our mainstream us news media refuses to give reports like this
one. The American newsmedia billionaire owners are making huge profits
from bush and his filthy invasion/occupation, so they
greedily/cooperate. They've all got the blood of over 100,000 innocent
Iraqi women and children on their hands, plus more than a thousand
American boys. Guess they just can't get enough!

4 pretty good sources for news:

http://www.DemocracyNow.org
http://truthout.org/
http://www.alternet.org/
http://www.commondreams.org/
Post by know buddee
If we plan to return Iraq to the Iraqis, why is the pentagon building
fourteen PERMANENT military bases there? Those who have been paying
attention know that the US appointed Iraqi Prime Minster Allawi is a
US puppet - and is not respected by the Iraqi people. Bush doesn't
belong in the white house, he belongs in prison
along with his bosses: Cheney & Rumsfeld.
I do not trust those who have recently murdered 100,000 innocent women
and children. Child molesters and wife beaters are less twisted than
they are.
====================================
Report: 100,000 innocent Iraqis killed since Bush's invasion
The Times of London reported that the survey attributes most of
the extra deaths, many of whom were women and children, to "airstrikes
by coalition forces." ....
http://www.christiansciencemonitor.com/2004/1029/dailyUpdate.html
RichA
2004-11-07 08:35:34 UTC
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Post by maximus-4-the-people
Fallujah and the Reality of War
By Rahul Mahajan
The assault on Fallujah has started. It is being sold as liberation of
the people of Fallujah; it is being sold as a necessary step to
implementing "democracy" in Iraq. These are lies.
I was in Fallujah during the siege in April, and I want to paint for
you a word picture of what such an assault means.
Fallujah is dry and hot; like Southern California, it has been made an
agricultural area only by virtue of extensive irrigation. It has been
known for years as a particularly devout city; people call it the City
of a Thousand Mosques. In the mid-90's, when Saddam wanted his name to
be added to the call to prayer, the imams of Fallujah refused.
Fallujah should be bombed off the face of the Earth before any
assault. Why risk 10,000 Americans and Iraqi assault troops
against 3000 entrenched insurrectionists? Carpet bomb the whole
area for a few days then assault.
If the leftwing scumbags here really CARED about the troops
(instead of orgasming everytime some die) they'd support this.
-Rich

trotsky
2004-10-30 12:50:00 UTC
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Post by RichA
Emimen is uneducated white trash.
And your credentials are...?
BTR1701
2004-10-30 04:37:07 UTC
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Post by know buddee
http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html
http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2654122
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Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight
This is supposed to be poetry?

Bah.
trotsky
2004-10-30 12:51:15 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by know buddee
http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html
http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2654122
-------------------------------------------------
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight
This is supposed to be poetry?
Bah.
What's your point of reference, anonymouse? You gonna quote us some
Wordsworth and Yeats?
BTR1701
2004-10-30 14:35:08 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by BTR1701
Post by know buddee
http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html
http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2654122
-------------------------------------------------
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight
This is supposed to be poetry?
Bah.
What's your point of reference, anonymouse? You gonna quote us some
Wordsworth and Yeats?
Here you go, anonymouse.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all around it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?

- William Butler Yeats, The Second Coming
trotsky
2004-10-31 13:36:40 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by trotsky
Post by BTR1701
Post by know buddee
http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html
http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2654122
-------------------------------------------------
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight
This is supposed to be poetry?
Bah.
What's your point of reference, anonymouse? You gonna quote us some
Wordsworth and Yeats?
Here you go, anonymouse.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all around it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?
Cool, now set that shit to music and you might be able to comment on pop
culture such that you actually have something to say. Sorry.
BTR1701
2004-10-31 15:20:42 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by BTR1701
Post by trotsky
Post by BTR1701
Post by know buddee
http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html
http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2654122
-------------------------------------------------
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight
This is supposed to be poetry?
Bah.
What's your point of reference, anonymouse? You gonna quote us some
Wordsworth and Yeats?
Here you go, anonymouse.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all around it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?
Cool, now set that shit to music and you might be able to comment on pop
culture such that you actually have something to say.
Done, anonymouse.

And what are you doing in a movie group, then? Using your logic, unless
you're producing, directing and/or starring in major motion pictures,
you have no legitimate authority to comment on the movies in our culture.
trotsky
2004-10-31 23:36:23 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by trotsky
Cool, now set that shit to music and you might be able to comment on pop
culture such that you actually have something to say.
Done, anonymouse.
And what are you doing in a movie group, then? Using your logic, unless
you're producing, directing and/or starring in major motion pictures,
you have no legitimate authority to comment on the movies in our culture.
Wow, are those two analogous? Who knew? Funny, I don't really recall
commenting on movies that influence pop culture. I'm not that big a fan of
"Rocky Horror" or "Pulp Fiction".

But you're right, anonymouse. As Dylan said, you don't need a weatherman to
know which way the wind blows. (That's Bob Dylan, not Dylan Thomas.) You
don't need to write music to recognize Mr. Mathers influence on pop culture.
You do need to need to demonstrate you have some grasp of the genre, though,
which roughly translates to I caught both you and Rich talking out your
arses again. Any questions?
BTR1701
2004-11-01 00:16:53 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by BTR1701
Post by trotsky
Cool, now set that shit to music and you might be able to comment on pop
culture such that you actually have something to say.
Done, anonymouse.
And what are you doing in a movie group, then? Using your logic, unless
you're producing, directing and/or starring in major motion pictures,
you have no legitimate authority to comment on the movies in our culture.
Wow, are those two analogous? Who knew? Funny, I don't really recall
commenting on movies that influence pop culture. I'm not that big a fan of
"Rocky Horror" or "Pulp Fiction".
But you're right, anonymouse. As Dylan said, you don't need a weatherman to
know which way the wind blows. (That's Bob Dylan, not Dylan Thomas.) You
don't need to write music to recognize Mr. Mathers influence on pop culture.
I never said he doesn't influence culture, anonyfat. However, not all
influences are good.
Post by trotsky
You do need to need to demonstrate you have some grasp of the genre, though,
I don;t need to bathe in shit to know it stinks. [A lesson you probably
wish you'd learned years ago.]
maximus-4-the-people
2004-11-01 00:55:13 UTC
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BTR1701 <***@ix.netcom.com> wrote

<snip>
Post by BTR1701
Here you go, anonymouse.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
Check this link to see what it's about:

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Post by BTR1701
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all around it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?
- William Butler Yeats, The Second Coming
Luca
2004-10-30 15:26:18 UTC
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Post by trotsky
What's your point of reference, anonymouse? You gonna quote us some
Wordsworth and Yeats?
... and here's some Wordsworth:

We go back to back and bring pleasure to mics
Y'all only go back to back just to measure your height
And me and weathers alike [how?], unpredictable
Hallmark "Get Well Soon" when your fan visit you
It's miserable, the way that I effect y'all lives
When I reveal the naked truth it will molest y'all eyes
And niggas stay askin Words [what] yo spit for my man
Remember my verse, go home, and kick this shit for your fam
You'll probably miss an exam to hear me kick it and scram
And you wouldn't drop an album if it slipped from your hand
Easy come, easy go, it's part of the game
When I write it's worth something cuz its part of my name
It's Wordsworth, really it ain't hard to explain
Depend on my hard and my brain
Like a farmer for rain
Where you fall short, is where we come up strong
That new artist with your demo you're tryin to run up on
You can't rehearse fate
My birthdate was a prophecy
Maternity wards had to reserve space
My words paint, describe emotion
You cryin notion, and sweat rivers
It's just in us
It's poetry at the highest form
It's bug cuz if you rap and bought this, I'm dissin you the entire song
Relyin on skill, can't dispute when I write it
I'm what you're looking forward to, like the future ?????


Luca
--
"You ain't hard, you're a rhyming fairy
who think that MC stand for Mariah Carey."
Punch&Words - Turn it up
Russell B Waters
2004-11-04 00:55:26 UTC
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Post by know buddee
http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html
http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2654122
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Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight
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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1027-04.htm
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If Bush stays in power - things will get much darker and uglier than
ever before. Many more US soldiers will be killed or crippled for
life. Lots of women and children will be left laying in ditches with
their guts hanging out - all over the world - unless we kick Bush's
dumb ass out of the white house. That is
very important. Please vote for Kerry and encourage your friends to do
the same! It's well worth the trouble! The people have the power,
but we have to get out and vote! Otherwise we might as well be a
bunch of mindless jellyfish, who do nothing while a bunch of idiots
wreck our nation!
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http://www.alternet.org
http://drudgereport.com
http://www.commondreams.org
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Bush is in and you're futile!
Nobody cares what you think, by the way.
Bush is doing a good job, and he is a decent man.
Stars like Eminem should stay what they are: stars.
*Not* political pundits.
--
Rusty
www.rbwaters.com (down for a few days)
www.gamingresources.us
www.nationwide-free-satellite-dishes.info
www.mikey-cook.info (free mikey-cook.info mail accounts coming soon)




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